White Trash Blues: Class Privilege v. White Privilege
If you blog about white privilege, you’re probably sick to death of people playing the “white trash” card in your comments. Their argument usually goes something like this:
- “Being white didn’t give me all these privileges you’re talking about.”
- “I know plenty of [minority] people who are better off than I am.”
- And the advanced version, which I’m guilty of using myself: “It’s really more about class than it’s about race.”
I am “poor white trash”. I can relate to all of the statements above. I grew up looking the part of Average White Girl, but middle class white people always pegged me as “different”. This left me vulnerable to losing opportunities and even jobs to white people who “fit in” better. Also, after my family made its great escape from White Trash Hell into Middle Class Purgatory, I learned to my surprise that there were black kids in the world who’d grown up with more money than I ever had. And so on, and so forth.
Here’s where the confusion comes in. Yes, I have a legitimate grievance against the system. Yes, I’ve lost out on things because I didn’t have the $20 to invest or know the magic social password that would have marked me “normal” (read: “middle class, preferably white”). And yes, it hurts when you don’t fit in with your own race because of your class, and you don’t fit in with your class because of your race. It’s hard to see privilege around that stuff, but the examples are out there.
Wealth gets you a ticket, but it doesn’t guarantee you a seat
One of the black kids I went to school with whose family was richer than mine? We discovered we’d given identical answers on a test, and she’d gotten some of them marked wrong while I got 100%. When we examined her other papers, we realized the teacher had been doing this for some time: “giving” the black girl a lesser grade. And one of the Jewish girls I knew whose family was richer than mine? When she was absent for a Jewish holiday and missed a test, one of her teachers decided to teach her a lesson by refusing to let her make up that test anytime but on a Saturday - the Jewish sabbath. The teacher offered truly pathetic excuses why after school, during lunch and during the girl’s study period wouldn’t work. Sunday wouldn’t work because it was the teacher’s Christian sabbath! The girl’s mother had to call the principal and threaten to bring the ACLU into it before she got a proper time slot to retake the test.
I’ve never been pulled over for “looking like you’re out of your neighborhood” (unless you count the time I was lost in a snotty part of Beverly Hills in an American car, gasp!). I’m not nearly as likely to get pulled over for traffic violations as black or Latino people, even if they grew up with more money than I did. Taking things a step further, I’ve never felt pressured to join a gang just to survive. I’ve never worried I’m going to get shot in my own neighborhood (and I’ve lived in some neighborhoods the white middle class considers “bad”).
That white skin would get you a seat, if only you had a ticket
My approach is to look at all the types of privilege that affect an individual. Take me, for example. I have white privilege and heterosexual privilege and able-bodied privilege working for me; I have class privilege and male privilege working against me. In the case of poor whites, the class privilege often takes more from them than the white privilege gives them (i.e., the college admissions board prefer my skin color, but if I can’t somehow pay tuition, I’m not getting in). In my personal experience, white privilege may be a total bust, and I have the right to feel that way: I do not have the right to muddy a discussion of white privilege with all my anti-privileges. But before I learned to separate the types of privilege, I’m afraid I probably did that once or twice. Not in the “minorities have it so easy” tone that marks one type of troll; I just couldn’t figure out which part of this stuff I wasn’t getting.
Not a credit to our race
I will probably write a whole post on this someday, but I’ll leave you with one last point to consider. In my experience, poor whites are one group of people that even PC folks think it’s okay to take potshots at. Make a “dumb blonde” joke, and someone sooner or later will call you on your sexism; make a “you know you’re a redneck when…” joke, and chances are everyone will take it as good clean fun. This is something that makes me generally distrustful of the supposedly “progressive” thinkers out there, and I assume it affects other poor whites simiarly. See, we’re an embarrassment to the white race. We’re proof that whites are not invulnerable to the repressions they’ve visited on other races. So we’re taught to keep quiet. On one level, we know we shouldn’t take that crap. On the other hand, experience has taught us if we take a stand, we’ll stand alone. I don’t know how many times I’ve endured jokes about my homestate when a potential new friend asks me where I’m from. And if you know me, you know I’d never let an insult to my gender go by without comment.
And if we have an accent of any sort - many of us do, since by definition it’s the higher classes who get the privilege of their accent being declared “no accent” - we’re supposed to put up with being made fun of and/or being fetishized. Or being expected to change it, if we’re “serious” about getting certain jobs or promotions. We’re vulnerable to class assumptions that we’re ill-educated, lazy, immoral or even criminally perverse (only in redneck jokes is incest somehow a topic for humor!).
While these points still aren’t germaine to a topic about white privilege, I’ve seen them get dismissed in discussions about privilege and bigotry in general, and in those cases they are relevant. Hopefully, something in this post will help someone weed out trolls and/or communicate more effectively with sincere poor whites who mistake a lack of class privilege for a lack of white privilege.

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Wow that was deep,I am floored by that whole article. You have opened my eyes to a whole new way to observe race and class.
Thank You. Betacandy
BetaCandy on 11 May 2007 at 7:37 am #
Thank you so much for the kind words!
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Jacqueline S. Homan on 07 Jun 2007 at 5:12 pm #
BetaCandy, your blog on this topic is the most insightful I have ever seen! Thank you! Your eloquent blog has left me feeling vindicated, as well as comforted insofar as I am not alone.
Too often, those of us whites who had classism working against us are not seen as equally deserving of being helped or being recognized in any social justice agenda presented by the progressive liberals. It is as if somehow, the maladies of poverty are somehow less horrible for us than for poor non-whites.
In fact, I am writing a book about a death penalty case that occurred in my state where the theme of unearned social privilege where socioeconomic status is being introduced.
I am not merely introducing it, I am bringing it to the forefront because I, like yourself, came from a “poor white” background and I am sick and tired of the injustices meted out to poor whites being ignored or invalidated. I do not believe we need to invalidate or diminish the white privilege that has worked against non-whites, but I DO believe wholeheartedly that the problems endured by poor whites and our plight deserve some recognition and a seat at the great table of diversity and social justice. May I use part of this article in my book and, if it is all right with you, would you let me know how to properly cite this blog and credit you?
Best Regards,
Jacqueline S. Homan
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Jane Baer on 08 Jul 2007 at 11:06 am #
There is much predjudice against non-wealthy whites.
Where I live in California, lower income whites were displaced by illegal immigrants who recieve many benefits, or at least have many programs the justification of which is to help them.
There’s no help for those displaced in housing or jobs by the influx of immigrants.
Living in a college town, I’ve heard the put-down “trash” by the politically correct elite on many occasions.
How are humans trash?
BetaCandy on 13 Jul 2007 at 1:38 pm #
Jane, I’m aware of what you’re talking about. There is no political advantage for policy-makers and officials to help poor whites. Providing aid - or at least appearing to, I have some questions about some programs - to illegals is politically savvy.
It’s not that the people in charge give a shit about either group. If it becomes politically savvy to advocate deporting illegals, I suspect most of the people currently pushing to grant them access to services would do a 180 on that issue.
As for the “trash” put-down, I wonder if there is some unconscious assumption that if a white person has failed to achieve middle class, they must really be a lower life form who isn’t trying, what with all that privilege they have. The problem is, when the US was established, most “citizens” were white, and someone still had to be on the bottom of the socioeconomic pyramid. Immigrants from Ireland and Scotland, for example were given the racist moniker “micks” to reflect their undesirability. They, among others, performed cheap labor, dangerous labor and factory labor and were despised for it.
I think some alleged progressives ignorantly assume that torch has been passed to other races now, and the former cheap labor whites immediately somehow became desirable employees for better-paying jobs despite lacking education and nice clothes for the office. It’s not that simple. Yes, I grant that English-speaking white poor people will have an easier time escaping the poverty trap than people of color or people who have difficulty with English. But it’s still often a multi-generational effort, and the fact that we haven’t all escaped yet is no reflection on our quality as human beings.
If anything, surviving poverty (no matter your race) might make you stronger than people who have no idea what it’s like not to be certain you’ll have food next week.
KC on 01 Nov 2007 at 5:01 am #
Here’s a hint, after living with and helping a 22 year old mother of two with no high school education get her life on track, she’s now willingly and happily moving into Section 8 housing and taking her son (she lost the girl in custody) into poverty from age 9 months. She has other options and doesn’t want them, in fact, she WANTS to be in this position.
Sometimes, people are just at the bottom because they want to be there.
BetaCandy on 05 Nov 2007 at 7:28 pm #
Well, that’s your assessment of her thinking.
Furthermore, you just described the precise behavior of several dozen trust fundies I know who could get out and work, but would rather settle for Mummy and Daddy’s welfare housing (the $800k condo in town) and let their kids go to whoever will take them while they go out and party.
So do you only pass judgment on this behavior when you see it in poor people?
eriktrips on 21 Nov 2007 at 10:14 pm #
@KC: I am not as close to the situation as you are, but I still rather doubt that the reason this young woman doesn’t take advantage of the options present to her is because she wants to “be
at the bottom.” There are plenty of imaginable reasons why she might not want to, say, work and go to school (is this one of the options?) when she has a young son. Those with a little money or with a little more money or a whole lot of money often don’t have to make choices between being out of the house 12 or more hours a day and staying home to take care of a kid; because they are not “on the bottom,” they are free to choose to stay home.
That’s just one scenario that seems plausible to me; I think, though, that a sober look at the “choices” being offered to her by a system in which she actually has no choice but either to sell her labor or live on welfare might reveal that her options are miserably few, and that the illusion that she is free to better her own situation is mostly an illusion.
I can state from my own example that if I had not started out from a privileged place in society, with a family that valued education enough that they were willing to finance my education so that I didn’t have to work while I was in school, and thus if I hadn’t have had the time during school to also teach myself some more marketable skills than those I was even learning at school, and if I hadn’t moved in circles where already highly paid entrepreneurs could take notice of me and the skills I had, that I would probably be headed for “the bottom” precisely because I cannot work 10, 12 hours a day. Because of my own psychological disabilities I can barely work five hours a day. The older I get, the worse it gets. But fortunately, because I was born into circumstances that have allowed me room to find other ways of making a living than the standard yet insane 60-hour week that is demanded of so many, I’ve found the kind of work that I can get by on working only part time in a controllable environment (home), and so, for the moment at least, I’m holding my own.
The point isn’t that the person you are talking about might also be “mentally ill,” as it is called where I live, and the point isn’t even that if she were, she would have to be functionally psychotic to even begin to get any kind of disability pay. The point is that there are countless personal, situational, cultural and social barriers to succeeding in our vehemently capitalist and individualistic economic system. I’m willing to bet that the options being offered to her are a very very narrow subset of the options available to the children of upper middle class families. She isn’t alone in this, of course, but different people confront narrowed possibilities with different reactions. I’d also be willing to bet that if you were willing to listen to the reasons why she won’t take one of the other options being extended to her, without judgment and without assuming the worst, that you might begin to suspect that she finds herself in a double-bind of some kind. What kind, I don’t know. But very few want to be dirt poor.
Some do want time to themselves. It’s unfortunate that the underclass of our society does not get this luxury without being labeled “lazy” or “ungrateful” or any of those sorts of things.
BetaCandy on 22 Nov 2007 at 10:26 am #
Very good points, Erik.
Perhaps this woman simply doesn’t want to completely miss out on her son’s formative years by being away from him so many hours a day. Perhaps she’s depressed because of losing her daughter - you might be surprised how much a simple depression clouds one’s thinking and judgment, one’s perception of one’s options.
Perhaps she even perceives an obstacle where there isn’t one, but she’ll never be enlightened to a solution by people who assume she’s just being an ass.
And again, she’s doing nothing that isn’t also done by the majority of the Bush family offspring. It’s just there’s a different set of rules for people like her when she does it, and you’re reinforcing that.
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abw on 31 Mar 2008 at 11:59 pm #
So do you only pass judgement on this behavior when you see it in poor people?
Prolly so? Then again this poster ain’t alone. Psst, I see too many people do it.
BetaCandy on 02 Apr 2008 at 9:59 am #
Exactly, ABW.
It’s an astonishingly blatant double standard once you think past all the rhetoric we grow up hearing and realize we’re treating certain life choices as appalling for poor people and merely misguided (or even acceptable) for the rich.
Jennifer on 07 Apr 2008 at 5:00 pm #
Just navigated here from ABW’s “Required Reading” links, and I’m glad I did. I’ve enjoyed reading your writing at Hathor Legacy for a while, but didn’t realize that you blog here as well. *adds to RSS feed…*
BetaCandy on 07 Apr 2008 at 9:07 pm #
Thanks, Jennifer!
CK on 27 Apr 2008 at 4:36 am #
Affirmative Action relates here. I worked full time and eventually put myself through college and law school. I left home at age 18. While in law school I gained access to school records and discovered, for one example among many, that
the black students were allowed to retake tests; many of them came from wealthy professional families. I sank or swam with every test I was only allowed to take once.
Growing up in South Chicago I did have to join a gang to survive.
BetaCandy on 27 Apr 2008 at 9:09 am #
And you’ve never known white, privileged kids who got to re-take tests until they passed? You don’t even need access to records to see this going on all the time! C’mon!
CK on 28 Apr 2008 at 8:28 am #
The simple answer, BetaCandy, is: No
There’s a distinction between looking at actual records and guessing.
If you have had personal experience with white, privileged kids getting to re-take tests while others did not
have that option, I agree that’s unfair, and I am totally against such a policy. I am totally against legacy privilege. I never voted for Bush, a prime example of an under-achiever given
legacy breaks if there ever was one.
I fail to see why the child of a black professional class family
should get to take a test over while the child of a white factory-working family cannot.
All affirmative action should be means-tested. I agree with Obama there.
BetaCandy on 28 Apr 2008 at 10:37 am #
The simple answer, BetaCandy, is: No
Then you’re not paying attention. You can’t get the full truth out of a filing cabinet. White men have TOLD me how many times they had to re-take a test before they got it right (usually because they were still drunk from the night before when they took, and how their daddies called up so-and-so with a bullshit story to make it happen. They think it’s something to brag about, how well connected they are.
Did you even look to see if white kids were re-taking tests? For comparison? Did you check all the working class white kids’ records to make sure none of them had 8-10 dead grandparents whose unfortunate passings distracted them during tests? Did you conduct interviews to see if anyone else was being allowed to re-take, with or without proper records being kept, as so often conveniently happens for certain people?
I agree that people shouldn’t be getting privileges because of their skin color. But white got skin-color based privileges for centuries before Affirmative Action reversed the process.
CK on 29 Apr 2008 at 8:35 am #
I did pay attention to the test records. Every single student who took the test more than once was documented, including the results of all tests done by every student.
That was just one example in my personal experience.
I have no reason to doubt your personal experiences.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
PS: I was the only white working class student in my law school class.
BetaCandy on 29 Apr 2008 at 9:00 am #
PS: I was the only white working class student in my law school class.
And this is what I want to make clear: the reason why you were the only one is entirely the fault of people who are rich and mostly white:
–Affluent liberals who feel good about making charitable donations that help those poor brown people over there, but have no interest in fixing problems that are more universal than that (poverty can affect all races, as can poor schools in poor areas, etc.) and, truth be told, would probably run screaming if they ever came across a brown person in a nice restaurant. Hypocrites.
–Government leaders who know there are small towns where kids haven’t a hope in hell of attending college because they start working to help the family when they’re 14, or have an ill parent who can’t get insurance and can’t work consistently, etc. They know these problems exist and they know solutions are available, but they are only interested in chasing affluent liberal dollars, which are only interested in the causes of people who look entirely unlike themselves - I think it’s just too easy to think “There but for the grace of God go I” when you’re an affluent white who meets and intelligent but uneducated white person who’s not struggling through life because of where and to whom she was born.
I think my tone was more hostile than it needed to be earlier and I apologize. I’ve just had one too many debates in which AffAct framed as “Look what the so-and-sos are stealing from us” when in fact it’s the existing (mostly white) power structure that’s jerking everyone around, and I assumed the former position was where you were going.
There ARE legitimate problems with Affirmative Action… but the one I keep coming back to is that no one seemed to have a better solution. You can’t correct a couple centuries of slavery by emancipating people into poverty and then, eventually, having a few decades where employers et al are forced resentfully to take them on. Ditto on the situation women face, having been the property of men. We have to work on a more subtle level than just fixing the law: we have been training people to see women this way and people of color that way and gays this other way and so on… we can start training people not to make those unwarranted delineations. The delineations we should be making are people who make an effort versus those who don’t; people who are selfish versus those who aren’t; etc. The important things have nothing to do with color, gender, etc.
CK on 29 Apr 2008 at 9:59 am #
BetaCandy, I agree with you.
I’ve always made your recommended delineations in my personal life. I was a teen age soldier. I was in a labor battalion in the US Army. My company had a white officer in charge, the usual preppie type. All his sergeants were black.
The makeup of the trooper-laborers (Combat Engineers, function officially described as Peons) were Blacks, Hispanics, and White Trash.
When we erected Bailey Bridges (Giant erector sets) or timber-trestle bridges, or cleaned mine fields or blew up stuff,
I always noted how some little guys gave all they had, while others, often big guys, pretended to hold up their part of the operation–only when being gazed upon by a higher echelon type.
What aveneue do you suggest for getting beyond this side of
a good portion of human nature?
Seriously? on 30 Apr 2008 at 3:55 am #
Bill Clinton came from a “white trash” background and still did not have to defend his race or class like Obama does, on a daily bases….White Privilege @ work.
They never said, “can white trash be elected as President of the United States?”
BetaCandy on 02 May 2008 at 10:15 am #
@ Seriously?, that’s another good point.
@ CK, the avenue I suggest is and always has been: opening minds, first and foremost. Then holding people responsible for their choices and stop making excuses for some while vilifying others for exactly the same bad choices. (I.E., poor people who abuse drugs are ruining the world, while rich people who abuse them only hurt themselves. Yeah… don’t think so!)
CK on 04 May 2008 at 6:58 am #
All good points.
I guess we don’t disagree after all.
BetaCandy on 04 May 2008 at 12:40 pm #
CK, we agree that everything should be fair, but your focus still seems to be on how you, the poor white, got shafted. The entire point of my post was that yes, we do get shafted, but not on the basis of our skin tone. If we can get into the middle class, we get all the privileges of the white middle class. For people of color, it doesn’t matter what class they make it into economically: they are still likely to be watched warily by store cops, asked to leave neighborhood they “don’t belong in”, ticketed more often, etc.
They are still likely to be presumed to have come from impoverished, likely criminal, backgrounds. You will never be suspected of that solely on the basis of your skin tone.
Morgan on 04 May 2008 at 7:27 pm #
Hey. This blog entry appeared on a list of readings for white educators working with/for people of color.
In your last paragraph you mention how it’s important to examine other strata of oppression in addition to the stratum of race. I agree—I’ve been burned badly and seen others get burned in conversations where people insisted that the focus be on race and race alone.
Conversely, some people will sidestep being confronted with their own skin privilege by waving their own oppression about. Then a conversation about race suddenly get diverted by one or more white people talking about how hard life is for them because they are female and/or single parents and/or disabled and/or transgendered etc. All important things to discuss, but it’s important to know the time/place/context to discuss these things.
Dialoguing about oppression is a process about building trust and relationships over time. I commend you for your words and keeping the forum open here. It is, of course, a beginning. There is no end, only continuous work in the world in which we live.
CK on 05 May 2008 at 7:53 am #
Please factor in the impact on white skin privilege of Affirmative Action policy as it has been implemented for decades now.
BetaCandy on 05 May 2008 at 9:24 am #
I did. Affirmative Action hasn’t changed everyone’s perception of women or people of color. Early bosses intentionally employed “quota people” of the lowest quality they could find to reinforce in people’s heads the idea that “[group name here] are lazy/stupid/untrustworthy.” They lumped more work on them or sabotaged them so they would fail. Just by being female, I’ve seen a lot of this first and second hand.
Long after Affirmative Action put women in the workplace, sexual harassment remained tacitly tolerated. It still is in film, and I’m sure that’s not the only industry where women know “If you speak up, there are a hundred applicants ready to take your place.”
Women are still expected to conform to the template of helpmate - we’re still frequently expected to tolerate more crap and stroke egos rather than issue commands. If we behave exactly like white men, we are “bitches.” Not being of color I can’t say for sure if people of color feel this strain, too, but I am aware that a lot of women of color have to deal not infrequently with the stereotypes that black women are “scary bitches” and hispanic women are “street” and Asian women are a walking sex fetish. No men of color have discussed this with me, but from what I’ve observed from white men behind their backs, white men still largely think any man of color in a position of power got there mainly from AffAct - if he’s any good, they’re speak of it in surprised tones. If he screws up in precisely the same way they all do from time to time, there’s a tone of “Well, what did you expect?” Even *I* don’t go through that crap here in L.A., though I certainly did in the Southeast when men were floored over and over by my intelligence and complimented me to no end - which sounds flattering and probably looks it to an outsider like you, but the next comments were always either “for a woman” or a comparison of my intelligence with that of their moms or wives, as if their moms and wives had the same education and training I had and therefore were comparable. No, they thought a double-digit IQ came with the vagina, and considered themselves super-enlightened to recognize those triple digit IQs in a member of the subspecies.
CK on 06 May 2008 at 9:12 am #
So, you are saying the policy of Affirmative Action as it has actually been implemented for decades now has discriminated against nobody due simply to the accident of their birth gender and/or color of skin?
My.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
To supplement your personal experience, I suggest you go to a law library on a visitor’s pass and spend a few weeks reading the relevant cases. The law librarian will gladly give you some relevant search terms and key words (for the books). And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
I agree with all you say to a point. Even though a lot of my personal experiences run exactly counter. I also happily concede the brutal past of while male power.
But your insistence nothing has changed over the last forty years, and your wilfull ignorance of official victim policy at the expense of the majority of white males born into the lower echelons of the nation is astounding.
BetaCandy on 06 May 2008 at 11:55 am #
You just don’t get that your estimation of the “expense of the majority of white males” is entirely derived from the sense of entitlement you (and all of us) are taught to accord white males in this lopsided culture.
The things you think are being taken away from white men are things us “minorities” never enjoyed.
I’m sure you understand that for things to become equal, white males are going to lose some privileges they didn’t realize were unearned privileges, and for the first generations, it’s going to feel like they’ve gotten ripped off. Like if you stop giving a kid an allowance they did nothing to earn, but have come to expect.
What you’re not understanding is that it’s white, wealthy men who are using minority issues to hurt other white, less affluent men. And I’ve already said all this above about liberals who want to feel good by playing their own twisted version of Robin Hood, who ignore the plight of certain whites or may even be in denial about it because it makes them uncomfortable. We’re just going in circles here.
CK on 06 May 2008 at 12:26 pm #
What you’re not understanding is many white males who have grown up over the last nearly half a century have never known white skin and gender preference, but rather, the reverse. As official government policy.
You live in a time warp, an arrestment of time.
You can’t right all the wrongs of the aged past by committing new wrongs, and calling it humane/ a higher vision. It’s like asking the Palestinians to suck it up because of the Holocaust that happened in Europe.
Your personal experiences and pre-Civil Rights Era history
are not current reality on the ground.
BetaCandy on 06 May 2008 at 1:07 pm #
Okay, that’s it. You are just a narcissist if you think white men haven’t had privilege in the past few decades.
You clearly have no idea what white women have been through and still go through because of white male privilege during all this time and the present. And that’s not even touching on people of color.
Your comments are no longer welcome, as obviously your whole concern here was indeed just to dismantle the notion that anyone’s problems could be as important as what the impoverished white man is going through.
Lexi on 11 Jun 2008 at 9:47 pm #
The thing I don’t always get is why we should be striving so hard to move up the class ranks? Why do we feel the need to move out of the lower class?
My bio is that I was born into a upper-middle class family with all the good thangs that entails - education and dental care, etc… - and ended up living on the poverty line through a series of colorful events and personal choices.
Reasonably looking ahead, I will probably always live on the poverty line from now on. It’s only scary if you think to much on it. *lol* In reality, as long as I’m very savvy about what I do with what I have, we will never starve or be without basic needs. I moved to a white trash area, put my car up on blocks (couldn’t afford petrol), stopped eating mostly commercial food and moved to home-grown/slaughtered, disconnected some utilities, take charity freely, etc…because I value my time and freedom and the experience of my family more then I value working more for more money. What’s worse (for whatever your value of worse is) I dragged my daughter along with me.
I’m not scrambling to get back up that class ladder again any time soon. Frankly I don’t see the point. And maybe that’s because of the privilege of having been there, done that. I don’t need or want for my daughter to have to do that either - I don’t need for her to go to university or have a 5 or 6 figure salary or own a home - I just need for her to be happy with herself.
Having said all that I do (some) work for pay, and have an equity scholarship, equity re-furbished computer and am in last year of a post-graduate degree - because I knew they existed and how to apply for grants, etc…again, because I’ve been in that position of privilage previously I knew such things *must* exist. I wouldn’t want my daughter to grow up to be ignorant of those oppourtunties. Then again, I wouldn’t be upset if she chose not to take them. Education doesn’t necessarily bring fulfillment and joy to me. It’s handy, and makes me better at my job, but I could live without it if that too was beyond my reach. The irony of education of course, is that you get a glimpse of all the things that *are* possible and you’re left feeling guilty because you don’t want anything more then you have.
Obviously I’m conflicted.
*white, female, single-mother - if it makes a difference
BetaCandy on 11 Jun 2008 at 10:36 pm #
I think it’s a good idea to really think about where you want to be. Having grown up poor, I actually need a certain financial cushion to feel secure and not lay awake at night. But I never wanted to be particularly rich. My solution, which I’m working toward, is developing an online business that will provide enough living for me to move somewhere relatively inexpensive and live frugally (including growing my own food). That way, I don’t need much money to be free of relying on the good will of employers and landlords - which is where a lot of my former-poor-girl stress comes from.
Not that I begrudge anyone who really just wants to be stinkin’ rich. In fact, lately I’ve been thinking of what I would do with billions - I would still live frugally, but damn, I would fund some stuff that would shake up the world and kick some ass.
But yeah, we’re all taught that being richer or living like The Joneses will make us happier, and it’s not that simple. For some people that really might be the answer, but for others it’s not.
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